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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Dilruba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilruba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So nice to see the Swami Chaitanya Bharti's website ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So nice to see the Swami Chaitanya Bharti&#8217;s website &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by oshobob</title>
		<link>http://www.sannyasnews.org/latest/archives/634#comment-15721</link>
		<dc:creator>oshobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abhay, 

If you get any more "clear" we will have to bottle you and market you globally -- Abhay Clearwater.
Clear as it gets. You are a wonder.

But no, I'm not in a prison in Xiamen -- have nothing to do with that Green Mt. Eco-Commune there, at least not directly. I have nothing but friends in China, by the way -- the Chinese are the freindliest people in the world. At least to me they are.

But that area between Fujian Province and Taiwan where Xiamen is, has a very interesting legend about Mazu, a female goddess of sorts, that protects the ships in the strait. I don't think anyone that I know of has made the connection, but there is another famous Mazu in Chinese history, a Zen Master from Sichuan, whom Osho has titled one of his books after -- Ma Tzu: The Empty Mirror.  One of Osho's favorites too. I think the female in the legend may have morphed out of the very male Zen master of earlier times. I won't go into it now...but, the Chinese have done this before, as when they took the Bodhisatva of Compassion from Indian Buddhism, depicted as male in the Indian images, and turned him into a very delicate female entity, called Guanyin in China. Flowing light robes, super delicate, very etherial...

The only reason I mention this, is not to flaunt my knowledge of Chinese culture, but to set before you the reality of a very enigmatic, mysterious, and quite misty atmosphere that is a fairly unknown undercurrent of China, at least to most modern people. And this impacts the here and now in these Osho discussions, especially since Osho exited the stage on the Zen fireworks finale. 

As you seem to be focused on extending your critiques of the current Osho Resort as somewhat misguided as to its interpretation of what "Zen" is, and how they (the Gang of Two/Three) are creating a false Zen Resort, not really Zen, not really Osho's vision of Zen, etc., this expanded view of Zen should factor in to everyone's view. Might defuse some of these battles in the Osho world, that are lit, and whose fires are never extinguished, but smolder on and on, maybe for no good reason either.

But hearing the word Xiamen, I thought of these two Mazu stories....one Zen, male, rough, and diamond clear, and the other one -- myth, watery, feminine, and very tenderly caring, and they both sprouted from the same source, i.e. the Chinese mind. 

Which leads me to one question:
Are you a man or woman, Abhay?
Don't be afraid -- I won't tell anyone, I promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abhay, </p>
<p>If you get any more &#8220;clear&#8221; we will have to bottle you and market you globally &#8212; Abhay Clearwater.<br />
Clear as it gets. You are a wonder.</p>
<p>But no, I&#8217;m not in a prison in Xiamen &#8212; have nothing to do with that Green Mt. Eco-Commune there, at least not directly. I have nothing but friends in China, by the way &#8212; the Chinese are the freindliest people in the world. At least to me they are.</p>
<p>But that area between Fujian Province and Taiwan where Xiamen is, has a very interesting legend about Mazu, a female goddess of sorts, that protects the ships in the strait. I don&#8217;t think anyone that I know of has made the connection, but there is another famous Mazu in Chinese history, a Zen Master from Sichuan, whom Osho has titled one of his books after &#8212; Ma Tzu: The Empty Mirror.  One of Osho&#8217;s favorites too. I think the female in the legend may have morphed out of the very male Zen master of earlier times. I won&#8217;t go into it now&#8230;but, the Chinese have done this before, as when they took the Bodhisatva of Compassion from Indian Buddhism, depicted as male in the Indian images, and turned him into a very delicate female entity, called Guanyin in China. Flowing light robes, super delicate, very etherial&#8230;</p>
<p>The only reason I mention this, is not to flaunt my knowledge of Chinese culture, but to set before you the reality of a very enigmatic, mysterious, and quite misty atmosphere that is a fairly unknown undercurrent of China, at least to most modern people. And this impacts the here and now in these Osho discussions, especially since Osho exited the stage on the Zen fireworks finale. </p>
<p>As you seem to be focused on extending your critiques of the current Osho Resort as somewhat misguided as to its interpretation of what &#8220;Zen&#8221; is, and how they (the Gang of Two/Three) are creating a false Zen Resort, not really Zen, not really Osho&#8217;s vision of Zen, etc., this expanded view of Zen should factor in to everyone&#8217;s view. Might defuse some of these battles in the Osho world, that are lit, and whose fires are never extinguished, but smolder on and on, maybe for no good reason either.</p>
<p>But hearing the word Xiamen, I thought of these two Mazu stories&#8230;.one Zen, male, rough, and diamond clear, and the other one &#8212; myth, watery, feminine, and very tenderly caring, and they both sprouted from the same source, i.e. the Chinese mind. </p>
<p>Which leads me to one question:<br />
Are you a man or woman, Abhay?<br />
Don&#8217;t be afraid &#8212; I won&#8217;t tell anyone, I promise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Shantam I Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shantam I Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/stephen-hawking-science-makes-god-unnecessary/story?id=11571150

Stephen Hawking: 'Science Makes God Unnecessary'

Do people still need some guru, that too,who died centuries or decades ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/stephen-hawking-science-makes-god-unnecessary/story?id=11571150" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/stephen-hawking-science-makes-god-unnecessary/story?id=11571150</a></p>
<p>Stephen Hawking: &#8216;Science Makes God Unnecessary&#8217;</p>
<p>Do people still need some guru, that too,who died centuries or decades ago?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Shantam I Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shantam I Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is whosoever...in short ??

www.oshomysteryschool.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who is whosoever&#8230;in short ??</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oshomysteryschool.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.oshomysteryschool.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don't forget to try the Lo Phatwah Pork Chop Suey, served with a steaming bowl of Long Guang Dong Donkey Dick soup (dipping sauce optional), and a side of Lo Me-in (acknowledging the witness within)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget to try the Lo Phatwah Pork Chop Suey, served with a steaming bowl of Long Guang Dong Donkey Dick soup (dipping sauce optional), and a side of Lo Me-in (acknowledging the witness within)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Ma Prem Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ma Prem Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>light heart idli.  Priceless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>light heart idli.  Priceless!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Shantam I Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shantam I Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judge in some southern American state told to the plaintiff  light heart idly, "  More and more women are on the roads. One must always be extra careful."
The Plaintiff replied, " But your honour, in this case. i was just sitting in my garden and a car jumped in."

Where did you import him From?
Definitely India, the whole sale market of spiritual products.
That is why one should learn some workable Chinese for a smooth dealing in China or Indian ways of life, in case soul is kicking for higher goals.
Or to watch the advertisement of HSBC Bank, world´s local bank tells the viewers how differ ant cultures react in the similar situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge in some southern American state told to the plaintiff  light heart idly, &#8221;  More and more women are on the roads. One must always be extra careful.&#8221;<br />
The Plaintiff replied, &#8221; But your honour, in this case. i was just sitting in my garden and a car jumped in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did you import him From?<br />
Definitely India, the whole sale market of spiritual products.<br />
That is why one should learn some workable Chinese for a smooth dealing in China or Indian ways of life, in case soul is kicking for higher goals.<br />
Or to watch the advertisement of HSBC Bank, world´s local bank tells the viewers how differ ant cultures react in the similar situations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Ma Prem Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ma Prem Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you import him from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you import him from?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Shantam I Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.sannyasnews.org/latest/archives/634#comment-15713</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam I Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like on the Indian roads, everything moves together. Bullack carts, bicycles, cows, scooters, cars; from Maruti to Marcedez..
Nobody bothers about any body else, still life goes on.

Learn some Indian way of Life, Jenny. To have some imported Master is not enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like on the Indian roads, everything moves together. Bullack carts, bicycles, cows, scooters, cars; from Maruti to Marcedez..<br />
Nobody bothers about any body else, still life goes on.</p>
<p>Learn some Indian way of Life, Jenny. To have some imported Master is not enough.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to the Inner Circle by Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shatam is muttering about the aloo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatam is muttering about the aloo.</p>
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