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Sannyasnews, criticism and anonymous posting

The following were originally posted as responses to “Tyohar, the Cosmic DJ”. The author of the article feels that the content of the comments are a different subject matter, and has asked for them to be published separately.

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Heraclitus // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:58 am

Strange that those abusing Tyohar and other teachers who are or were sannyasins, on the noticeboard (annonymously) dont comment here. Maybe because they have to give a valid email address, hiding behind such cloaks does not help anyone, particularly themselves.

Also those others who crticise sannyasnews for acting as an umbrella for the interests of all sannyasins dont it seems want to comment here.

I have seen Tyohar, who is obviously somewhere with his energy, criticised for imitativeness and all sorts, on the old chatboard and on the noticeboard.

Give a man due. He has created a commune, ecological in nature, and has his own way of working with energy. These are achievements enough for anyone, and he fully acknowledges and respects Osho.

Those who criticise sannyasnews in this regard seem totally off the block, and not in touch with grass roots sannyas at all.

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amrito // Aug 4, 2008 at 7:46 am

haha you are hilarious! and what’s with this double standard you have against Sw. Anand Arun, who completely is an Osho desciple, talks only about Osho, does only Osho meditations, and has built an Osho commune. And these accomplishments haven’t earned your respect and all you”ve seen is ego, its pretty transparent that in the sannyasworld there’s more than subtle racism.

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dharmen // Aug 4, 2008 at 10:37 am

What are you talking about???

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amrito // Aug 4, 2008 at 4:47 pm

well, if you look on the other thread, this is what was written:

Heraclitus // Jul 22, 2008 at 7:14 am

What’s Dhyano got to do with Arun? Only that it’s all a new priesthood anyway.

Like the early Christian Church, couldn’ t wait to become official, and elitise everything.

How does Mr Alok square his seeming approval of the Circle of 21 with his devotion to Arun? They both hate each other cos they are rival priests! Hippies living near the river or on the road,, go there, and Jesus and Osho will be there, not within the brickwork of churches and official communes.

and than:

Heraclitus // Jul 17, 2008 at 9:31 pm

No-one is saying Osho is dead here! Just that he hides in other places that official or unofficial Osho centres or Arun centres or whatever.

Arun lived in Pune one but never took a walk on the wild side. Osho was there every bit and may be more than inside the gateless gate.

Dont forget that osho himself said he would never have gone near the Poona Ashram if he had been a seeker at the time!

And now here, not that I have anything against Tyohar, but to the same person who criticises Arun prior thinks Tyohar shouldnt be criticised!! Its a double standard!!

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yakaru // Aug 6, 2008 at 10:41 pm

Good idea, sannyasnews, organising it like this for comments. Well done!

Dear Heraclitus,

I don’t have anything especially against Tyohar - he seemed ok when I saw him 10 years ago. I do object though, to the way criticism is often met with Ad Hominem attacks and elaborate avoidance strategies.

The reason I (for one) posted anonymously on the CNB was because my name had been blocked, so I used my initials. A certain “Mr Just” posted some negative and judgmental comments about me there too, even though he seemed to think the notice board is no place for such like.

Like you he also objected to “anonymous commenters”.

While we’re on the subject of anonymity, I’ve never seen your name on this site before, yet you don’t exactly seem to be new here. Have you ever posted on this site before, maybe under a different name? Care to identify yourself?

Maybe you could also ask Mr Just the same question if you….um….happen to bump into him.