Terrorists behind Pune blast identified
Mumbai, Apr 7
The suspects behind the German Bakery bombing in Pune on February 13 face imminent arrest.
The Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) on Wednesday submitted its report on the investigations into the blast, which killed 17 people, to the state home ministry, identifying the Indian Mujahideen (IM) as the perpetrators.
It also named the persons involved in planning and executing the blast, although details were not revealed to the media for obvious security reasons.
The report was formally presented by the newly appointed ATS chief Rakesh Maria to the home department which has forwarded it to the Indian Central government.
Only recently, the Central government froze over a dozen bank accounts of the IM suspects in Pune. The chief suspect is Mohsin Chaudhary, a Pune resident and one of the founder members of the IM. He has since disappeared from Pune.
The investigators are on a lookout for Mohsin and other IM terrorists suspected to be behind the blast. The others are IM founder Riyaz Bhatkal who had lived in Pune for four years before settling in Pakistan, Abdus Subhan Qureshi and Riyaz’s brother Iqbal Bhatkal. The fifth suspect is Mohammad Amjad Khwaja from Hyderabad, who was arrested in January by the Andhra Pradesh police. He had told investigators that he was shown videos of the Osho Ashram in Pune, which is close to the Bakery.
While the Bhatkal brothers are believed to be hiding in Karachi, a massive manhunt has been launched for Mohsin Chaudhary and Abdus Subhan Qureshi.
The blast in Pune was reportedly triggered as part of what is called the Karachi Project, planned by the Pakistan-based terror group Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), which was behind the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, and its front organisation Jamaat-ud-Dawa.
The details of the alleged Karachi Project were revealed by the LeT operative David Headley to the US Federal Bureau of Investigation, to whom the Indian investigators are seeking access for questioning him.
The charge sheet against Headley quoted him as saying that the brothers, Riyaz and Iqbal, were being sheltered by the LeT in Karachi. Headley himself had visited Pune twice and conducted a recce of the Osho Commune and other places in the vicinity. He had stayed at the Surya Villa, close to the German Bakery.
I find it amusing that the police know all the in-depth details about IM, SIMI, LeT, and all the other terrorist organisations. They sit back and watch the e-mails, the bank accounts, and I can only suppose the planning stages of terrorist acts. So one of the founders of IM simply hangs out in Pune until he blows something up, and then the police pick him up. Unfortunately they can no longer pick him up because he is no longer hanging out in Pune.
So the police are pursuing the Osho Resort, IM, Headley, Karachi, LeT line of inquiry. The police reckon it is a dead give away because IM’s signature is on the Pune blast. You see the explosive used was a mixture of ammonium nitrate and RDX. Really, that is an originally mixture, and both ingredients are virtually unobtainable in India aren’t they.
The argument is that the Osho resort was the real target, but it was just too tough. Huh, are you kidding. Anyone seen what these guys did in Mumbai? What, did they forget in their training to include learning to climb over a six foot high fence? The Osho resort, nestled in 40 acres of rolling greenery, with easy access on almost the entire of its borders, is what, a hard target? Well if they don’t like climbing over six foot fences at the Osho Resort, then how about they go through the neighbours backyard. Hang on, there is some wire here. Oh damn it I forget the bolt-cutters. Oh well let’s go and blow up the German Bakery. Perhaps the terrorists are as stupid as the police. This is the only way I can make sense of this matter.
This story has lost the punch.
Like any other metro cities, Pune is back to normal routine. Ashram property is save and sound and there is not a single percent doubt about management team´s basic capabilites.
Your flowery metaphors are part of a repetitive pattern not a striking of elements in a flight into the unknown.
You have previously made the same comment with respect to water. You assume that everything was and is fine with the water. What is this based on? Is it based on your like of Jayesh and Amrito?
Both comments show that you are capable of forming and holding onto a belief when there is not only no reason to form such a belief, but significant reason to view such a belief as false.
YOU ARE A FOOL!
WHY DID (DO) RESORT MANAGEMENT HAVE VISITORS DRINKING CONTAMINATED DRINKING WATER DURING THE MONSOON? WHY DID THEY DO THIS WHEN THEY KNEW (KNOW) THAT IT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE SICK? TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM WOULD HAVE COST WHAT, A FEW FILTERS! UTTER INSANITY!
WHY DID RESORT MANAGEMENT EXPOSE VISITORS AT THE RESORT TO THE RISK OF A TERRORIST ATTACK THE EVENING OF THE BAKERY BLAST? WHAT WAS DONE TO PROTECT WHITE ROBE PARTICIPANTS, NOTHING. UTTER INSANITY!
HOW EASY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN FOR SOMEONE TO SKIP OVER THE FENCE OR GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBOUR SIDE OF SOMEWHERE LIKE LAO TZU GARDEN, AND LEAVE A BAG AT THE DISCO THAT NIGHT? UTTER INSANITY!
THE RESORT WAS A SOFT AND ATTRACTIVE TARGET. THE RESORT REMAINS A SOFT AND ATTRACTIVE TARGET. UTTER INSANITY!
CHANGE YOUR VOTE or
VOTE FOR CHANGE
Abhay, you are fixed on a certain belief system and that is it. I am not going to blame someone for the acts they have not done, atleast in my opinion.
And as a sannyasin who comes from Law background, it is a pious duty not to impose random panel offences, once you get hold of a person for some reasons, the way it happens in many countries.
May be as a engineer you could detect some flaw in the water distribution system. It is also very much possible that this defect has been worked upon.
It is also true that in the new regime, dedication and passion in sannyasins is on the nadir, everybody works for one´s own survival BUT as a organisation it runs still smoothly and people are taken care of in a highly professional way.
I am not willing to agree the way they impose their will on the emotional spiritual aspects of Osho´s people but will not Blame them for their lack of caring and professional approach.
And even after the bomb Blast, these people did quite remarkably, keeping in mind political and social scenario of India.
I am watching their working since 1987. From me they deserve Gold medal on these practical aspects with the present ruling Government of India.
If it pushes your buttons, than please check the shrink.
Again i will refute you.
Resort was an attractive target and will remain an attractive target. Where in India one can find so many people from west with such density.
BUT ashram or resort or again Ashram when it will be; is not an EASY target and will never be. Internal security in accordance with law enforcement agencies will give a perfect enviornment to relax, in a country where anything can happen any time because of its immense diversity.
Shantam you have your idealised dream of the old Osho ashram. It is your precious and most dear possession. Yes Jayesh and Amrito have taken it over, but you want it back. Anything that looks like a threat to your precious image you have to attack or ignore. You try to discard the very real threat of terrorism with emotionally waged ignorance. You also have previously expressed the position that the lowly physical body is of no importance. It does not matter if people get very sick (maybe even if a few die) from drinking contaminated water. It does not matter if people are at risk of the horrors of terrorism. None of this is important. Your idiotic image of the old Osho ashram has to be protected at all costs. Such worldly issues are far below the spiritual heights of you and your retarded view of Osho. Your position is no different from the position of the current management. You are just as insane. They also have an idealised image. Their image is of a zen-style Osho resort. They are also willing to forgo the health and well-being of their clientele. This explains much about why the current situation is stuck. At the centre of it appears to be polarisation of two insane opposites. It is the religious extreme left versus the religious extreme right. I can only hope that OshoWorld and OFI and others do not in general have the same warped and dangerous mentality as you. It does make me wonder though.
I argue that the resort management was (at least) guilty of negligence. Of course no harm came to any resort guests the night of the Bakery bombing. Hence the “harm requirement” for compensation is not met, and so no one is entitled to damages (unless a person suffered considerable emotional distress). Just because no actual harm was done does not mean that there was no breach of duty or that there was no negligence. I still argue from the information I have that there was a breach of duty and a case of negligence. If I do not get hurt then I cannot sue for negligence, but that does not mean there was no negligence in the exposure to potential harm.
If Pune resort supplies guests with drinking water, it has to by law ensure that this water is completely clean. If the water is not completely clean then the resort has breached the law. In the same way the Pune resort has a legal duty of care. If the resort has acted in a negligent manner then it has breached this legal requirement. Fortunately the resort was not victim to a terrorist attack that night. I can not say that the people who have consumed the resort’s water faired so well. In any case there is a legal breach on both counts. It is in my opinion two cases of negligence.
The Pune police have booked 30 establishments for not following the recently issued terrorism safety guidelines. This is a breach under section 188 of the Indian Penal Code (disobedience to duly promulgated orders from authorities). I do not know what was in the safety guidelines, but I find it hard to view the resorts inaction that night anything other than clear evidence of a failure to comply. To have had these guidelines issued is itself implying a general requirement to be vigilant with respect to terrorism. It raises the bar of what would be expected of the relevant parties to ensure the safety of people from the threat of terrorism.
Abhay, the detective
During the last 24 years i have not heard a single sentence from any one from Australia to Latin America about the lack of hygienic in food or water quality of the ashram.
Not a single voice.
If people are not coming to Pune any more, though the longing and financial resources are both intact, it is for emotional reasons.
In spite of the Bomb blast at German bakery, i have not heard a single voice, where people have doubts about the security measures taken by the authorities there.
Again i will say, Jayesh team is full of good managers. They can be pride of any hotel chain, They fit well with the hospitality industry. They have the possibility to open chain of resorts and Spa´s, because they take care of BASIC facilities in the best tradition of West.
But Osho Pune will remain empty or under nourished and stagnated, simply for the fact, someone from Edmonton wants to generate Sun shine there through the skills he learnt in Canada.
It just happened the other day, when a pilot and co pilot did not listen the voice from the grounds, one can see what their over confidence did to Poland.
In Deep Contact with a Master
The only hope for you is to be in deep contact with somebody who is awakened. The awakened one is called the master – satguru. If you can find a master, don’t miss the opportunity – surrender, relax into his being, imbibe his awareness, let his fragrance surround you. And the day is not far away when you will also be awakened, you will also be a buddha.
Osho
PS- First you see, monkeys fighting with other monkeys for dominatioon over female counterparts and the domination on the trees. Than you see the human beings fighting with other human beings for similar reasons, and than you see the disciples fighting with other disciples for similar reasons of domination, control and what not.
This is evolution, finer and finer ways of winning the control over all form of resources.
Those that cannot hear are deaf.
Those that do not want to hear
chose to be deaf.
The black-box is with you I suppose?
The arrogance of post-scripting Osho.
You put the disciple above being human.
This is very telling, and is why I repeat,
you put the spiritual above the humane,
and then you can justify the inhumanity
of the religious extremist.
What you call arrogance can be seen also a Tease between Master´s words and disciple´s devotion.
If one is not able to tease the master, than heart has not come that closer.
I feel once one is closer to the Master, irrevocably one is in love with His other disciples too. Sibling revelry is an essential part of growth but to knock out the others; it is brutal.
And may be it is my illusion that i have come closer to the Master. How it can be?
Poor Shantam was not even a cleaner of His compound, what to say about secretary, doctor, dentist, financier etc.!
So now you play the sensitive and devotional victim.
A Tease between your spirituality superiority trip and Osho? Please.
There have been some serious questions raised about some senior Osho figures. It stems back from the last day of your chance to imbibe the presence of the living Master Osho. A pledge from Amrito to explain the workings of the Inner-Circle. And from that day onwards not a word, other than to say that it was Osho’s wish to work in secret. For twenty years now this deep inconsistency remains, yet life goes on. People forget, people move on, people ignore, what else to do? Mind is mind.
The trademark issue and editing and copyright tyranny are deeply disturbing, as is the water issue. If being internally terrorized was not enough of course now there is the face of terrorism from other shores to deal with. Yet again there remains deep and wanting questions. When did people like the Chair of the Inner-Circle and the head of security find out about the Bakery incident. What did they then do? These questions need answering, yet no answer comes. To finish off we have people like Shantam trying to condemn the very asking of these questions.
If there is nothing to hide, why the lack of response. Has shyness set in? Or are they wrestling with the emerging emotions of a dictator? You seem to imply that pointing out these glaring omissions and asking for answers is brutal. In a way yes your words that seek to shut down the raising of the unanswered is brutal. What is it then to not bother fixing the drinking water, and in India. Sure I would not have expected them to have the system as good as the façade that appears in their precious image. But I would have at least expected them to buy a few filters, and fix a few problems that were not too expensive. I know most of the money is needed to build new and wonderful parts of the resort, and for the global expansion initiative.
It has troubled me deeply understanding the motivation for allowing things like the water to go unanswered. Going so far as to even physically attack the person that has tried to point out this terrible erring. And now we seem to have it that the management exposed visitors to the possibility of terrorism that unfortunate night. I think the leadership share your spiritual superiority trip. It is just that you are on the extreme left and they are on the extreme right. Their vision of Osho is to attract all levels of spiritual evolution. All are welcome, even the deeply unconscious. They will also arrive, just a few life times later on. Their physical bodies are in a flux, and will come and go. It does not matter if injury comes to them, or even if they leave the body, for this will happen anyway. It is part of the journey. I am suspicious that this is part of the mentality of management. What are the motives of a psychopath? Perhaps we should ask Sheela to comment here, since not hearing from management since conception some twenty years ago.
Shantam and Papa Sexteen are protecting the good of the Universal church hahaha good one shants you are sooooooo cute
Six years to defrock a convicted pedofile and what do get for twenty years?
that the management exposed visitors to the possibility of terrorism that unfortunate night…
How you can say that?
And somehow one has to understand the genesis of the inner crisis. Broken strings of the instrument make no good music.
After breaking the strings, J&A wanted to fix them too, but like using guitar strings on the Sitar.
Till 1999, ashram was releasing press releases about most of the major happenings of the world. Chaitanya Keerti was the expert in drafting such press material garnished with Osho quotations. Amrito and Satya Vedant used to sign in accordance with the issue, and many national dailies were giving them the paper space too.
It was like keeping the tradition of higher and superior attitude alive. Any one can feel in Osho´s discourses too, how He was sure that His vision and His people will be the trend setters for a better world.
This was the time before 24X7 TV channels.
At the end of so called nightmarish nineties, when the world was moving towards the global cooperation and unification, Prodigal sons started cutting the strings of Osho´s Sitar.
May be the music was too slow for them.
Instead of embracing the expansion, resort became a cold door cult. People who had different opinion were deported. Press office lost all the shine.
Now with with what authority, these people or the people in Delhi can face the world and issue the statements of any kind.
Resort people have no moral authority and people who can make a little sounds and were well kown faces representing Osho are living as refugees at Oshodham Delhi or they have their own meditation boutiques at Sidona or Dharamshala.
Still i will say as far as security and the property management is concerned, people at 17, Koregaon Park Pune are as capable as the management of Taj Hotel.
Before, now or after, it will always be a situation in Pune that western management people, how so ever strong influence they may have inside the ashram, have to take a back seat at the time of Indian national crisis.
it is the requirement of Protocol and also when emotions run high, foreigners giving any kind of power statement can fuel the atmosphere.
So in my opinion, My right wing brothers played their role quite well during the time of Pune Blast.
I may be left wing or the liberal, being a sannyasin with eyes, i must say, next era will be of aware and large hearted politics.
There is no need to see the shadows around the opponents, if they are playing beautifully, why not to appreciate them.
And one thing Abhay is very clear, these people hurt ed your pride and efficiency, so you have gone personally sour, your writings show this.
I have no such wound around me. My relations were quite cordial with all the groups during my fifteen years there. So it is a stand based on principles. You can see, i am writing with my original sannyas name.
Yes Shantam you are writing with your original name,
yet you are not writing with your original face.
I am interested, are you spokesperson for OshoWorld in Delhi?
If resort management were acting in a technically efficient manner, then we would have essentially a case of political division. This presumably would allow the different shades of Osho to flower in different places around the world.
There is unfortunately a problem with this. It is that Osho left the Koregaon Park place to all his people to share, and as a symbol of this is the treasures of the Samadhi, other Samadhis, and what is left of Buddha Hall. The pagoda and other objects represent the religious rights of your Osho refugees. This is why the resort is intent on destroying such sacred sites.
my face is not like Brad pit or Indian movie choclates but it is original.
http://www.facebook.com/shantam.astro
Even though Osho World is just 135 Kms. away from my home city in India, but i have never visited that place. But i was working with the Pune people who are now living as refugees in Delhi.
I write as a common sannyasin who felt his calling with Osho´s words, Silence and the global vision.
And i feel the j&A team has made Osho Vasectomies. They have turned the bull into an Ox.
May be they were thinking in this way they will attract more people. Even this was a wrong calculation. Humanity has turned out smart. Why they should take the left over soup and that too soup of the soup of the soup.
Some how i wonder why the people who fought tooth and nail for copy right and trademark issues are not taking few steps further to liberate Osho from the grip of chosen few.
and i am not suggesting reactionary attitude that let us throw J&A out of Pune. let we ban them. NO..they are as part of Osho´s work anatomy as other people. Just these two people need to accept their limits, this will be good for them, for us and the collective vibes of human race.
And Abhay, why Osho´s vision should not be the proud and precious possessions of all of us.
I pad will have five more competitors before the Xmas season. Osho remains still one of its kind in the jungle of dead and living Masters(real or bogus both).
You have strongly formed beliefs to defend yet you have not explained any of their content. I explain why the resort is in my view an easy target. You reject this, yet simply say is it not an EASY target. The capital letters only seek to shout your belief louder, in the hope of shouting down my views with your noise. The resort management also do the same as a general strategy. Why do you not explain why the resort is not an EASY target, and why I am wrong in my analysis. The reason is because on this subject your mind is not freely flowing and available. It is running on old tracks that run one way, in one direction, carrying the same load. The same is with the resorts practical managerial efficiency. There is no response to the issues raised, and all you offer is a standard no compromise position. Not surprisingly it is also the case with the terrorism incident. You say that the management clearly acted in an honourable and distinguished manner. You do not respond to the criticism raised. If you are aware of some factual error in my part, or perhaps some error in reasoning, then why is it that you do not say so. Also, if as you so clearly and forcefully state, the resort management acted in an entirely appropriate manner, I assume from this that you know what they did that evening. That’s nice, would you be so kind as to share that information with us. Shantam you are an ignorant fool holding on to beliefs that have no credibility. All this to protect the Universal church that you one day would like to take over from the religious fascists that currently run it. Great, it will become run by a brutal regime of religious communists. You have demonstrated a blind disregard to the well being of people who come to visit Osho. I wonder what your views of people who have no liking for the man are?
Form the begining Osho never like out side people work. NEVER. After US when Osho came to Poona again, one note came from Osho to all workers and Amrito was brougt this note that Osho dosnot want any his work in commune done by our side people. An now only and only out side people can work. seems Amrito, Mukesh andd all dosnot want to see Osho sannyasin at all. whole managment team look like hates sannyasins. Why….can any one tell why such anger against sannayaisn…and behind all thie game only one mind is working….BIG BOSS….
hey guys, what happened in the past , we can not undo it ………i feel sorry and sad for who lost their life in german backey …………i wish thighs were diffrent in koregaon park………..we have to deal with other issues as tough as terror.
osho always says my path is like RAZOR,S EDGE.
lets unite all osho lovers . we can solve lots of problem and we can handle thinghs good. i do not know what management team is doing about it …i hope they give sannyasins enough security ,so meditation in 17 koreagaon park can continue…….managment should learn from german backey accident and take important steps ……we need love there, more than other time……love heals. you all know ………management team should not try to create hate and divisions among osho lovers………….
love to you all and please feel free to comment
Detective, Use some imaginary scale, some demographic chart. The way sociologist creates a chart which country is the more corrupt or least corrupt, which city has more crime rate and less crime etc.
And may be you can read the Novel ShantaRam by your fellow Australian. This man has more feel about India than many of the Indians or others.
So first i will refute your WATER Phobia.
Have you met a single soul in the universe who fell sick while drinking water of commune property.
And you have to check all this with the yard stick of India.
It has one of the safest public water filtration system in Pune, but if i compare this with my tap water in Germany, i think Bottled water in India is less trustworthy than the water here. Still those who can afford buy Volvic, Evian etc.
And your general hate for the management there is screwed in your otherwise sharp and analytical brain.
Now about Soft and easy target point.
From the tourist point of view, what to say about Australia, compared to India, Bali is soft and easy target.
And in the whole world India holds a unique position of giving its heart and space to diverse religious and cultural group.
Its tolerance and capacity to integrate each and every belief system, for sure many of the high profile disciples of Osho lack this quality, though they have lived in India for their entire life.
If they don´t disappear like dew drop in the universe, they will learn rest of the lesson, not from some Master but from the milk of an Indian Ma.
So here in India too, compared to Goa, Maharashtra is a soft target. But the people of India and the govt. has a strong will to defend its citizens and guests, same is true about Ashram, who so ever is in the management, and with high tech CCTV´s and human surveillance, boarders of any institutions are not difficult to defend, so much so that even a suicide bomber cannot go beyond the welcome centre.
And Abhay, keep in mind, even with most liberal system, if some sannyasin or any one distribute propaganda fliers at the gate of the ashram, will also be banned, and security has a right to push him away, just the way any police system will do in such situation.
You just cann´t piss before the White House, even if some Black is the president.
we need love there, more than other time……love heals. you all know ………management team should not try to create hate and divisions among osho lovers………….
Yes–Amano. and this is the sad reality, Inspite of the fertile atmosphare, cultivation of love is not possible at 17, Koregaon Park, Pune.
The landlords there want to grow potatos instead of Mangos.
They know how to make potato chips and with R&D may produce Potato Juice!
I take my hat off to you Shantam. When you make a single comment that has both relevance and credence, is based on your knowing not your wishful and ignorant thinking, and has not already been clearly refuted, I will respond at length. And I do mean clearly refuted, not CLEARLY refuted. Is it that you think I am so stupid as to forget all the evidence in the past pages? Do you think the repetition of omissions and meaningless gibberish will make me believe your pitiful defence and ignore the obvious?
Detective Swami
If anyone would like an amoeba free refreshment may I suggest going to Abhay’s site:
http://alivezen.blogspot.com
In “Osho Pune News” you may find much that has been swept under the carpet of NOISE.
The little flier that Shantam referred to is called “Water Contamination Report”.
May I also suggest, among others:
“Report to Police: Assault 1”
“Report to Police: Assault 2”
From my reading of the situation Abhay was near the front gate for an extremely short time before Dhyanesh reacted. It just shows how quickly the management can react. If Abhay was an idiot with a meaningless flier, then the reaction would not have been so swift or so strong. Could not the resort humour a little harmless criticism from a disgruntled banned sannyasin?
Now if I reflect on the night of the Bakery bombing, where was the rapid response. Surely this was a more serious threat then a banned sannyasin handing out some promotional literature critical of the regime. Oh yeah Dhyanesh can react. Did you read the bit about him running down the road alongside his security compatriot who was threatening Abhay with a broom. It makes for a great scene. Yet it just shows. Dhyanesh can be at the front-gate in a flash, co-ordinating his guards to do this and that. At a moments notice a security guard has grabbed a sweeping ladies broom, and they are all off down the road chasing Abhay away. It is so funny.
So what about after the Bakery blast. Did Dhyanesh go to the front gate, and forgot to discuss the issue in detail with the guards? Did he notify the guards at the back-gate and at the back of the auditorium/hotel? Did he forget to take his phone or his pager? Did he forget to tell the security guard at main gate that the he had changed his number? Did he go off at a run, or at least a trot. Did he perhaps take his tiffin and tucked into a night-cap on his way to see the Sannai guard. I have heard he did at some stage make it to the German Bakery.
Still the most startling question arises, why when faced with something so trivial as the banned sannyassin with a flier did he react so swiftly, and then faced with the very real possibility of a terrorist bombing did he seemingly do nothing, or at least very little. What that banned sannyasin knew about the resort was a very real threat. OK, so the swift reaction makes sense on this count. Was it that the resort did not consider the incident at the German Bakery a very real threat? I have previously explained why the idea of a gas cylinder explosion does not cut it. So why no clear response? It seems it was not absolutely clear that there may well be more tragic events like the Bakery bombing that evening? Why was this so?
PS How the heck can someone determine that I have an otherwise sharp and analytical brain when they have a brain of spungy toxic sludge.
PPS The toxic sludge comes from the bottom of the sewer that flows both past the resort, and down into its water table.
remember compassion …
go veg-an……
http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/VIDEO/HOME//557//ALL///
http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/pr_slaughter//2297//
and yes thank god
they are at least 100% vegetarian in the OIF. vegans well catered for too..
ARE YOU ? watch and learn and dont switch off…
Listen to osho talk about an enlightened Cow and the buddha nature of animals… beyond_psychology/ discourse 31… available at osho world. download..
love only love….
and congratulations to all who raise and expose these potential issues of public health at the resort. Only transparent structures in the crazy human world can possibly satisfy our tendency towards deficient human behaviour.If criticisms are subsequently found misplaced or erroneous there should be a consequent liability and onus on those who have failed to supply evidence either way.
And yes this does mean we will have to work with notions of trust and responsibility and accountability at all levels.Kind of puts a brake on ‘la did da heart stuff ‘ but hey if you ever lived in a commune-ity you’ll realise its all in the detail.
In the meantime… Go VEG… its easy and its safe..for all beings……my recent post is being moderated but hey im worth the wait……
cheers
m
What a piece here. So, let’s hope everybody has had a change to express opinion of OFI, let go of all negativity and meditating and melting with sanyas. Can we be like this?
Hug to you all. We are all one….with litlle hungups…
tra la la ya all have some hugs all round da de da tra la la
In the words of the Number 2, and Freschee I aint talkin about your beloved Doc. I am talkin about the priests that are not the priests that may be. In light of the Pedofilia in the Priesthood celebation, your other beloved (Papa Junior) reckons that homosexuality causes pedofilia. Yup, the Vaticano reckons their celebate little devients have nothings to do with it at all. Here’s to the good of the Universal church, and hugs all round.
tra la la big Osho sannyassee hugs all round But watch out for a hug from those homos
Hey Mr Smartyn, if there are congratulations in the pipe line, and liabilities for the unbelievers, does that mean there is a pot of gold on offer too.
Shantam Star, what areas other than the main entrances does your resort CCTV cover? The German Bakery had CCTV, and the O-Hotel also covered the bakery’s side perimeter. And what good did that do? So the resort has 40 acres, complete with low-fenced or poorly fenced sections on most parts. The German Bakery has a few square feet, and still what did the CCTV do? Anyhow in your astrological charts it is divined that terrorists would only reach the Welcome centre. So how many people exactly hang out there at peak times?
The priest-hood is dangerously out of touch with reality. I read it in the stars. Maybe you should check your charts Shantam Star.
As for the Bakery, if a gas cylinder blew up, from where they are stored there could not possibly be any force directed towards the front of the bakery (from where they are stored around the side). As previously stated, they are in a little room. I am assuming the walls are made of brick and concrete. The metal doors would have blown out the side, causing damage primarily sideways. Hence no person could have got blown over North Main Rd for example. They would have landed over at the O-Hotel. You might here reply that well the blast did blow a gaping section in the side wall. Well if a gas cylinder blew out the wall of the storage room facing towards North Main Rd, then there would not be any Bakery left to speak of. Perhaps someone was replacing a gas cylinder, hence it was not locked away. Maybe, but where was the gas cylinder delivery truck?
pot of gold….?
try enlightenment intensive/satori/who is in ….7 day process
the pot is a well of fortune….it cannot be held ….just like the rainbow
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ABhay, in the role of detective, the thought which entered my mind after reading your posts for months is-
“hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”
In a sannyas langauge, one can use heart, feminine etc. for Woman, to make the above quotation gender free.
Now to the point.
Can you suggest few measures which J&A management team should take to protect the 40 acres of green boarders from the future terrorist attacks?
Because, in my opinion on this front they are doing enough as any Business Inc. will do.
And for me this is the only reason for the decline of famous Poona energy. If less and less people are entering the gate less gates, it is not because they are afraid or there is some kind of recession, it is because the melting pot of different ingredients is not on the mysterious fire. Something very mundane has taken over the occult, the divine.
The priest-hood is dangerously out of touch with reality. I read it in the stars.
It is true for all kind of priests from all kind of religions and no religions.
I was hoping like many others that some how first generation sannyasins, who started the journey as disciples will not spread this virus of priesthood.
What creates the Priesthood?
In a vernacular language, priesthood is a three eggs omelate mixed with cook´s Cum.
For lovers, it can be a kinky game. For inner world, this takes the form of a perversion.
PS-Those who are repulsive to sex games, for their priesthood one can add cook´s Sweat/saliva in the famous three eggs omelet.
shantam what kind of whisk are you using ?
if you offered your menu at the resort it might keep away the bombers and terrorists.. at least they wouldnt come for lunch or dinner or breakfast…
do you cook for One usually …
Did not know the meaing of whisk.
check the google, what it means whisk,and the very first page-
Why Whisk? Whisk means to whip, to act, to move rapidly, to brush, to cause a stir… Everyday its something new – global warming, state and indivdual terrorism, corruption, mediocrity, apathy, poverty, war, propaganda, bullies in school, guns, alchohol and drugs… there seems to be no end to the world’s problems, and only a handful of achievements. For too long the silent majority has watched the mighty minorities rule the roost. The internet can be the tsunami that topples the bullies, though, and this blog is probably just another blog among the millions already out there. The point is that the silent majority is no longer silent. Bullies beware!
Martyn, My menu for the ashram is very simple.
No Priesthood.
Seekers holding hands of each other, fellow travelers learning from oneself and others…
Same recipes of Osho. Exactly like simple and staright forward language, He uses to communicate the mind and beyond.
People dealing with His work, can change stoves, pans, whiskers, cups and plates, knives and forkes, but not the quality and acts of gatherings HE was presiding himself.
in Simple words, Food for the seekers (path Pachay) without any dictates from the notes of Dr. Amrito, Mr.Jayesh Ms. Neelam or Swami Rajneesh!
To JA & Gang (Including Dhyanesh)
If you leave me and anyone I associate with alone, then you will not here from me in the way you have done on SannyasNews and OshoWorld. If I even sense the slightest threat coming from you than I will re-open my investigation. I also have a particularly sensitive nose. This for example extends to my right to walk along any public road in Koregaon Park to visit the Osho Teerth Park. It also includes threats from your associates, whether that be in Koregaon Park or Goa or Amsterdam or Ibiza or Byron or anywhere else.
Swami Detective
Harri Om
Prem Abhay
Shantam I think the whisk you are using for the eggs omelette is still attached to your body by the ingredients u originally suggested
Have you included Osho’s brother Shalendra too in the priesthood …mindyou there are so many osho around I thought If you cant beat them (like the eggs) join them….
how about Osho Shantam Prem Rajneesh
or Swami OshoPremMartynOshoOsho
( still I dont think anyone else is reading this anymore so you can call yourself whatever you like)
cheers
swami Osho de laOsho
I think most of us still feel if world looks at the problems under the light of Osho´s words, solutions are easy to find.
but as it seems, people at the decision making bodies print the words, distributes the words but hardly contemplate over them.
It is like salesman who sell Viagara, have no time to take the tablet. Sooner or later his wife will find someone else in the family. In this way people like Shailandra, Sorry Osho Shailandra come in the picture.